The Pain of the Cross

This all started with a thought on the way into work this morning.

  1. If God is the originating author and creator of time…
  2. And as such if he, like many past theologians have believed remains (*in his fully godly state) outside of time.
  3. Then how does he perceive time?

Without trying to argue this point for I believe far greater minds than mine have done all the wrestling that man is able too; reference Augustine, Edwards, Ockham and the list goes on and on.

My question to myself was and remains, how does Jesus Christ my Lord, the Second God Head of the Trinity view the Cross? We (Christians) love to use phrases like, “returning to the cross”, “throwing myself before the cross”, “holding on to the cross”, etc. All of these are present tense. We understand the Cross of Christ as something that happened 2 millennium ago and yet at the same time we see it in it’s on going power to forgive not only my present sins but those yet committed. In that sense as Christians we see that one incident (the Cross) in time spanning not only our own past but the past before it occurred and then forward thru all eternity.

So if we see that incident, that act, flowing thru time past, present and future; how does God see it, He who resides outside of the flow of time?

My thought as well as what leads to my question is that God “sees” all time as now. If God sees all time as now, then God sees the Cross eternally. It has always been before him and always will be.

Maybe you’re saying to yourself, “OK, so what?” Isn’t the “so what” then the fact that God is not only seeing it but is in that sense reliving it eternally? We see Christ’s act upon the cross, past tense. God has seen Christ’s act upon the Cross and will see it thru all eternity. Christ’s atoning sacrifice was only a one time action to the man Christ. To Christ of the God Head it’s an on ongoing act.

Now I’m not trying to bring up some heresy that’s already been discounted and which I know nothing about, no what I’m trying to point out in all of this is that when I sin. When I fall short and grieve the Lord my God. I am responsible for putting him back on that cross again. Over and over and over until he comes once again in final glory.

And maybe that’s the way it is until the end of time. Until that day when time itself ceases to exist and eternity is all that remains. Perhaps at that point the Cross will also cease to exist for there will no longer be a need for it.

Until then.


*I believe that as the “man” Christ, God fully experienced linear time in the same manner that we do.

2009-11-25T14:56:06-04:00 November 25th, 2009|Categories: forgiveness, ponderings, ramblings|4 Comments


  1. Notso December 1, 2009 at 10:07 am

    Hmm. Interesting, mind expanding exercise. I too struggle with getting my brain around this concept and cannot resist commenting. My first thought – God is. As you point out, everything to God is present tense. He doesn’t look back or forward – even to the cross. The only way my feeble mind can relate to this concept is that God “sees” every point in our time continuum AND every detail (sub-atomic level to universal scale). I guess that is a definition of “is” on the God scale. Second point, you don’t put Christ back on the cross. When He gave his earthly life as a perfect sacrifice, my grasp of it is that He did it “once for all” (Rom 6:10) until this world passes and His kingdom is established. He took into account all the sin of all the believers that were yet to come – see end of Heb 9 thru first of Heb 10. So the sins we struggle with daily are already covered. Our job is to live up to that reality – to actively take part in our sanctification in this this life – to “work out our salvation with fear and trembling”.

    • Rong December 1, 2009 at 11:23 am

      Thanks for pointing out my errors – wasn’t trying to be a heretic by putting Christ back on the cross. 🙂
      I think I was trying to wrestle with the enormity of my sin from Christs perspective. I may “know” that Christ paid for all of my sins (Past, Present, Future) in that one act that from our perspective happened over two millennium ago. But from the time-line that I live in, the sin that I just now at this very instance committed, was one of the reasons the nails pierced his flesh. The other day I was having a personal revelation of how I need to be more aware of the magnitude and gravity of my daily short comings.
      Too often I go about my day resting in Gods mercy without being grateful for the price that was paid. I was attempting to correct a spiritual character flaw. I hope that may shed more light on what I so poorly attempted.

      By the way – nice to hear that you’re still alive. 🙂
      Tail of the Dragon some time in the Spring. Let me know what you think your calendar will look like.

  2. Notso December 1, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Wasn’t trying to point out any errors – in fact I thought I was committing heresy in my feeble attempt to explain my thoughts. I appreciate your ponderings as they cause me to ponder as well. I’m reading through Packer’s ‘Knowing God’ and have had similar stirrings – God’s majesty is something I easily dismiss or don’t understand at all and I am grieved at the thought. Also, just ordered another book – ‘Respectable Sins: Confronting the Sins We Tolerate’ – by Bridges. I read the table of contents and it was like getting hit in the stomach with each topic listed because I struggle (or don’t) with each one! Oh how I look forward to the “time” after Christ’s return…

    Tail of the Dragon – how can I resist?! You have to check this out

  3. Notso December 1, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Oh how I hate it when i forget html code… Sorry for th dropped links

    Respectable Sins: Confronting the Sins We Tolerate’

    Riding the Tail of the Dragon

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